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i have no doubt that the roswell case

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is a crash of an alien spacecraft

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i'm convinced that something has been

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here before and that something may be

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here now

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there is a cover-up

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after many years of investigation i'm

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certain that there is a cover-up as far

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much

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fifty years ago

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something happened near the town of

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roswell new mexico

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that event known as the roswell incident

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has become synonymous with flying saucer

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crash alien visitation government

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cover-up or many say a jump to

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conclusion and gross distortion of the

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hello i'm patrick mcnee

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mention the name roswell and chances are

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no matter where you are someone will

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have heard of it and most likely will

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have an opinion about the subject in

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this program we'll take a look at what

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is known about roswell and what is still

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unknown and we'll try to answer the

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question what happened here and what

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does the government know about it

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so why is everyone talking about roswell

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well above all else roswell has become

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something of a cultural phenomenon a

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stampede of media attention fueled by

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fanatic fascination by a growing number

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of both skeptics and believers

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all coinciding with the 50th anniversary

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of the original incident

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the result

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since the late 70s there have been

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dozens of books both promoting the

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theory of ufo crash and refuting it

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there have been countless magazine

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articles tv shows movies

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and a burgeoning presence on the

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internet

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it seems that everywhere you look for

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someone saying something about roswell

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i believe that a flying saucer from

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another planet

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crashed i believe that

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a man and his son found debris and i

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believe that

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the government the united states

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government

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acquired the wreckage and put it in its

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inhabitants and storage

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that's what i think happened

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in the city of the same name the craze

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has grown into a cottage industry of its

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own there are two ufo museums within

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city limits and a third just outside ufo

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and alien-themed souvenirs are

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everywhere and promotional campaigns and

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slogans sell every conceivable product

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no one in this city of almost 50 000

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people can remember anything like the

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extravaganza commemorating the 50-year

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anniversary rock concerts lectures and

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other special events are unprecedented

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here roswell has become an

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internationally known entity unto itself

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all because of a single incident

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occurred half a century

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ago the question is why after 50 years

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are we still talking about roswell

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what is it about this story that so

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intrigues people and gives rise to such

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controversy

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in 1947 something crashed in remote

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southeastern new mexico

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after the pieces of the wreckage were

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recovered the army issued a press

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release saying it had captured a flying

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saucer

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earlier statement and said it was

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nothing more than a downed weather

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not until people who were there started

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to tell their stories some 30 years

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later did ufo researchers begin to piece

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together a story that has captured the

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imagination of people all over the world

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i've actually read a lot of books about

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roswell and looked at all the evidence

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and i think that there was some sort of

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government cover-up and i'm pretty sure

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that something crashed there and it

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wasn't just a weather balloon

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what we're talking about

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is a story of visitation by beings from

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another planet

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here on a mission of exploration perhaps

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only to end up casualties

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it is the story of our government

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deliberately concealing details of the

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incident or the whole thing is a case of

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misrepresentation and outright

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fabrication something

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in 1947. so we were

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quite amused that they misidentified our

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balloon for a flying saucer i would say

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that i believe that there was an alien

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that crashed north of roswell

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that what happened at roswell

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was that a project mogul

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aluminum foil radar targets so it could

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be tracked

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crashed on the ranch of

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a man known as mac brazil general dubose

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who was the chief of staff of eighth air

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force in july of 1947 told us flat out

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that the balloon explanation was a cover

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1947 it's easy to forget that roswell is

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a real place a real city with real

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the heart of chavez county roswell sits

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the town was first established in the

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army airfield opened and became home to

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the 509th bombardment group at one time

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the only atomic bomber wing in the world

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runways are still used for commercial

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flights general aviation as well as a

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same is still true today

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many other industries call roswell home

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now of course and the city has come

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through the past 50 years with its eye

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on a future full of promise

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small city in america

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been painstakingly researched

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the basic sequence of events which

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transpired here half a century ago is

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idea of what happened

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unidentifiable

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aerial phenomena the army seemed to be

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at a loss to explain the observations

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army fighter planes are on patrol for

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flying saucers

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the control tower is in touch and on the

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watch so are a whole lot of people these

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thunderstorms on record a ranch foreman

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named william mack brazil

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heard what he described as an odd sort

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of explosion

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researchers have since established the

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sequence of events that followed

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on saturday july the 5th while out

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discovers a large quantity of

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lightweight metallic debris the material

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several hundred feet wide

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the following morning brazil makes the

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75-mile drive into roswell and reports

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a wilcox who in turn upon witnessing the

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debris himself decides to notify the

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the following day brazil escorts

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counterintelligence corps to the debris

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the two then gather and load up some

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debris and return to roswell

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some distance away believed to have been

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disclosing that the army has recovered

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raymie announces that the identification

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of the recovered debris as a flying

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saucer

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has been a mistake

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and that it is actually nothing more

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than the remains of a downed weather

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record runs the revised version of the

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for a few brief hours the lid was off on

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one of the most fantastic stories of

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human existence

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then suddenly the lid was slammed shut

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two months later chuck yeager would

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break the sound barrier and america

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would find itself taking the first small

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steps towards its own program to travel

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into space

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saucer story was forgotten by all except

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those who were there thirty years would

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pass before troubling memories prompted

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some of those participants to start

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talking

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by now almost everyone who has examined

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this case agrees that something did

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crash near roswell

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the question is what

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was it as the military claimed at the

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time nothing more unusual than a downed

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or could it actually have been some kind

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headline edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army army officers

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mexico and sent to right field ohio for

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further inspection

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colonel william blanchard of the

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rothwell air base refuses to give

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details of what the flying disc looks

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like in fort worth texas where the

286
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object was first sent brigadier general

287
00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:23,279
roger ramy says that it is being shipped

288
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by air to the aaf research center at

289
00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:28,160
right field ohio

290
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i have no doubt that the roswell case

291
00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:34,000
is a crash of an alien spacecraft no

292
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stranger to roswell investigator kevin

293
00:12:40,949 --> 00:12:38,560
randle first came to follow up on the

294
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reports that it intrigued others before

295
00:12:44,069 --> 00:12:42,560
him now what we thought would happen is

296
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we would come down to roswell we'd spend

297
00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:45,920
three or four days down here talk to the

298
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witnesses and discover the plausible

299
00:12:52,230 --> 00:12:50,160
explanation for it blow out of town

300
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it didn't happen that way in fact the

301
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first couple of days it didn't go very

302
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well but then we talked to bill brazel

303
00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:57,760
the son of the man who found

304
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the debris field up near corona new

305
00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:00,800
mexico

306
00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:02,480
and once we talked to him we realized

307
00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:04,160
there was much more to the story that's

308
00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:05,680
more had to be done there were more

309
00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,399
people we needed to talk to

310
00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:11,040
one of the pioneers of ufo research

311
00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:13,600
stanton friedman is generally credited

312
00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:16,160
with breaking the roswell case after a

313
00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:18,560
tv station manager first told him of

314
00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:21,279
jesse marcel out of the blue no previous

315
00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:23,279
connection anything we talked about he

316
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says you know the guy you ought to talk

317
00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:26,800
to is jesse marcel

318
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who's he

319
00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:29,600
oh well he handled pieces of one of

320
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these saucers when he was in the

321
00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:32,959
military that got my attention as you

322
00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:35,040
can imagine i said was he alive do you

323
00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:36,079
know him

324
00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,920
oh yeah he lives over in houma i had the

325
00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:39,600
faintest idea where home of louisiana

326
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:41,920
was and i've been there since of course

327
00:13:46,949 --> 00:13:44,000
we're old ham radio buddies

328
00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,959
shortly before marcel's death friedman

329
00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,040
was able to record an interview in which

330
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the former intelligence officer

331
00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:53,040
recollected the incident

332
00:13:55,829 --> 00:13:54,720
one thing i was certain of being

333
00:13:57,750 --> 00:13:55,839
familiar with

334
00:13:59,189 --> 00:13:57,760
all our activities that it was not a

335
00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,199
weather balloon

336
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nor an aircraft nor a missile

337
00:14:04,949 --> 00:14:03,279
it was something else which

338
00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:04,959
we didn't know what it was they were

339
00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:07,440
just fragments strewn all over the area

340
00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:09,040
an area about three quarters of a mile

341
00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:11,519
long and several hundred feet wide

342
00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:13,360
so we proceeded to pick up

343
00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:14,639
the parts

344
00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,279
a lot of it had a lot of little members

345
00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,880
with symbols

346
00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,720
that to me i call them hieroglyphics

347
00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,120
because i could not interpret them could

348
00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:25,920
not be read they were just like symbols

349
00:14:28,629 --> 00:14:26,800
of

350
00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:28,639
something that meant something these

351
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,240
little members could not be broken now

352
00:14:37,189 --> 00:14:34,639
could not be burned i i even tried to

353
00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:37,199
burn that would not burn see that stuff

354
00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:39,120
weighs nothing it's not any thicker than

355
00:14:43,269 --> 00:14:41,440
tinfoil in the pack of cigarettes

356
00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:43,279
see that's right the bend the

357
00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:45,279
he says it will not bend

358
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:47,040
he says we did all we could to bend it

359
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:48,880
it would not bend

360
00:14:53,509 --> 00:14:50,880
he says we even tried making a dent in

361
00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:53,519
it with a 16 pound sledgehammer

362
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:01,509
don schmidt co-author of ufo crash at

363
00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:04,079
roswell along with kevin randle is

364
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:06,720
likewise convinced that the crashed

365
00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:09,920
object was a craft from space we have

366
00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:12,320
over 5 newspaper

367
00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:16,560
and radio reports on flying saucers and

368
00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:18,959
it really didn't upset me that much i

369
00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:19,920
know

370
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:21,920
if the boss man said that we had a

371
00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:24,079
flying saucer in our possession we had

372
00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,920
one and that was it

373
00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:27,600
i was just told to put out a press

374
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:30,639
release later that day out remembers the

375
00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:34,000
official story changed they said it was

376
00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:36,240
a weather balloon and

377
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:38,399
that's it

378
00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:40,079
many people have challenged the weather

379
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,320
balloon story while at least as many

380
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:44,320
have rejected the notion of a crashed

381
00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:45,519
ufo

382
00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,680
the air force recently commissioned its

383
00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:49,839
own investigation into the enduring

384
00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,399
mystery and allegations of cover-up

385
00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:54,560
retired colonel richard weaver is

386
00:16:02,230 --> 00:15:58,480
convinced something crashed in roswell

387
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:02,240
just not a flying saucer we found

388
00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:05,680
in our study our research on roswell

389
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:08,079
that ultimately the explanation that's

390
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:09,519
the most plausible

391
00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:12,480
was that the debris that was found was

392
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:14,240
from a

393
00:16:20,710 --> 00:16:17,600
project which in 1947 was classified top

394
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:20,720
secret called project mogul which was a

395
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:23,519
high altitude constant level balloon

396
00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:26,320
research project which was designed to

397
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:27,440
detect

398
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:30,240
soviet uh military

399
00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:32,959
nuclear explosions which were we were

400
00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:34,880
unable to detect by any other manner

401
00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:37,120
during that time despite the conclusion

402
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:39,120
of the air force's report the story of

403
00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:42,240
something vastly different persists to

404
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:43,360
this day

405
00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:45,920
while no photographs of any crashed disc

406
00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:47,680
are obtainable there have been a number

407
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,600
of eyewitnesses who have spoken to

408
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:51,120
investigators

409
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,720
some of these individuals have been able

410
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:55,199
to provide detailed descriptions of what

411
00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:57,680
they remember seeing

412
00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,480
sworn affidavits hand-drawn sketches and

413
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,399
various documents have been obtained

414
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:04,400
from a number of sources

415
00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:06,000
we've probably probably conducted

416
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,439
between twenty five hundred and three

417
00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,880
thousand interviews with five hundred

418
00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:10,079
different people

419
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:11,600
and what we're talking about is not only

420
00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:13,520
people who who saw some part of the

421
00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:14,959
story or who were in roswell and knew

422
00:17:19,029 --> 00:17:17,360
part of the story but who were family

423
00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:19,039
members second-hand witnesses if you

424
00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:20,880
will my father told me this story my

425
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:23,120
uncle told me this story one of those

426
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:25,679
who was there was glenn dennis employed

427
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:28,720
by the ballard funeral home i got a call

428
00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,799
in the afternoon from a gentleman that

429
00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,720
called said that he was a mortuary

430
00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:34,080
officer

431
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,840
and he was wanting to know

432
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:37,679
if we

433
00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,559
some baby caskets three foot six or four

434
00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:44,160
foot

435
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:46,320
long that were hermetically sealed

436
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:48,160
they're tight you know waterproof and

437
00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,440
all this

438
00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,440
and i informed that we always kept it

439
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,600
four foot you won't know how many and i

440
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,679
said one in the display one in the

441
00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:57,520
storeroom

442
00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,559
and he said how long would it take to

443
00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:01,919
get more

444
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:03,919
and i said hey what's going on out there

445
00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:06,320
what's your problem and he said well

446
00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:08,160
we want to know how well prepared you

447
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:10,160
are in case we should have an epidemic

448
00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,760
or something out here with the base

449
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,400
children and all that phil mcdonald is a

450
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:16,559
forensic sketch artist who uses

451
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:18,720
techniques employed by many police

452
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,200
departments to create pictorial profiles

453
00:18:25,029 --> 00:18:23,039
of suspects they brought me into the

454
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:25,039
case for the specific purpose of

455
00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:27,280
reproducing the spacecraft and the

456
00:18:32,150 --> 00:18:29,679
bodies using forensic methodology

457
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:32,160
standards that you would expect from

458
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:35,679
either fbi or homicide detectives i work

459
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,080
with the witnesses directly i do not

460
00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:40,960
redo their work the ship at roswell as i

461
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:43,280
said before was not a disc

462
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:46,960
it was a stingray-shaped winged vehicle

463
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,360
it was 25 feet wide in wingspan by 28

464
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,679
feet in length and was covered from

465
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:56,160
wingtip to wingtip and from the bow to

466
00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:59,120
the stern with a hexagonal beehive

467
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:02,000
pattern of power cells that glowed when

468
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,320
powered and provided

469
00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:06,720
either anti-gravitational lift or

470
00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,679
electromagnetic fields that separated

471
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,360
the ship from the ground

472
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:13,440
one of the most important witnesses in

473
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,880
roswell in 1947 was major marcel's 11

474
00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:18,320
year old son

475
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:21,200
jesse marcel jr marcel is a physician

476
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,440
with a practice in montana

477
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,000
my dad came into the house very excited

478
00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:28,559
he wanted my mother myself to look at

479
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,440
what he gathered up in the field off of

480
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,600
a ranch northwest of roswell

481
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,360
at that point i was not quite sure what

482
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:37,679
a flying saucer was but i was certainly

483
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,000
eager to see why he was so excited

484
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,080
i've lived with us for 50 years

485
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:44,720
and again i'm not sure what it was but i

486
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,200
do know what it wasn't

487
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,160
it does not fit the description of what

488
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:52,480
the air force tells me a mobile balloon

489
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,789
marcel jr recalls the night his father

490
00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:00,880
brought home the strange pieces of

491
00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:02,080
debris

492
00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:04,159
the material that i saw

493
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:05,679
on our kitchen floor that night did not

494
00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:06,960
feel the description of a weather

495
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:09,520
balloon nor any kind of target device

496
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:10,799
that would have been used for radar

497
00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:12,400
reflection

498
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,080
i was a little familiar with radio

499
00:20:19,029 --> 00:20:16,240
myself because i i was with my dad as a

500
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,039
ham radio operator and into this

501
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,120
and again the

502
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:23,120
it just did not fit the description

503
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:26,000
of what i now know to be a radar target

504
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,919
nor weather balloon of course

505
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,679
nevertheless there have been skeptics

506
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,679
who have called into question major

507
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:33,840
marcel's ability to identify the

508
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,880
materials back in 1947

509
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:39,520
why he did not know that this was

510
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:43,520
ordinary meteorological materiel

511
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:44,720
is simply

512
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,480
explained by the fact that he didn't

513
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:48,400
know what it was

514
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:51,280
that he had no prior experience

515
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:55,039
no knowledge of what it was and so

516
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:56,960
he simply

517
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:59,120
could not identify it he used to bring

518
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:00,559
some weather balloons home for me to

519
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,240
play with these big envelopes and uh

520
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:07,120
so what this was is there's no balloon

521
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:10,000
component to the wreckage that we saw

522
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,440
and i guess

523
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,039
other people say that well i was a radar

524
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,760
target well he went to radar school to

525
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:17,360
study radar

526
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,679
reflectors and things like that and and

527
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,200
if it was that he would

528
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,280
not even bother to show it to us

529
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:25,760
the balloons that we used on the early

530
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,320
june flights were made of neoprene they

531
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,480
were large size

532
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:32,720
meteorological balloons of the sort that

533
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:35,760
are used to carry radiosondes to measure

534
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:37,440
temperature pressure and humidity in the

535
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:39,840
upper air the radar targets were some

536
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:43,200
special pre-production models that were

537
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:45,200
left in stock at fort monmouth after the

538
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:46,159
war

539
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,200
and they consisted of aluminum foil

540
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:51,360
laminated onto a fairly tough

541
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,320
uh

542
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,400
parchment-like white paper

543
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,799
and they were deployed on sticks of

544
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,480
balsa wood

545
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,760
other parts of the debris were more

546
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:01,039
unusual though

547
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,080
there was some beams and i recall them

548
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,159
as being metal other people recall them

549
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,640
as being wood but my recollection is

550
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:11,200
these were metal beams

551
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:13,039
i don't think there would because i'm

552
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,799
very was very familiar with baltimore

553
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,720
because i built mulch wood models all

554
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,039
that time there were markings on the on

555
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:22,559
the radar targets and the manufacturer

556
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:23,520
had to

557
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,640
use some

558
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:26,960
tape something like scotch tape

559
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,280
to attach the reflective panels to the

560
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:30,799
balls of sticks

561
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:32,880
and it appears that that

562
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,200
the manufacturer used

563
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:37,280
some tape that happened to be on hand

564
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:39,919
that had some pinkish purple

565
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,720
flower-like designs two up uh

566
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:44,480
little petal

567
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:45,679
shape

568
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,200
figures on the back of the tape

569
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:51,760
yet marcel insists that the markings on

570
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,600
the material were something other than

571
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:55,840
pieces of decorative tape on the balsa

572
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,320
wood he has since commissioned a replica

573
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,280
of the debris that he witnessed the

574
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,280
strangest thing in the whole debris that

575
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,240
i the whole types of debris so was the

576
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:08,480
eye beam or the beam

577
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:10,640
it was a metal rod

578
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,679
12 to 18 inches long with the purple

579
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,200
violet view

580
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,919
figures written along the inner surface

581
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:19,679
when i picked this

582
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:22,640
beam up off the kitchen floor i looked

583
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:23,520
at it

584
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,039
and really didn't see anything too

585
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,960
unusual until i held it

586
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:27,679
up

587
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,600
like this to get the light from the

588
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:31,919
overhead light that was over my shoulder

589
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,000
reflecting along the inner surface and

590
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,200
that's when i saw the uh these symbols

591
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:39,600
they were very faint and unless you held

592
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:40,320
us

593
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,360
up against or with light

594
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,200
they would have been easily missed that

595
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:47,200
was the last time the marcellus would

596
00:23:52,470 --> 00:23:50,640
speak at the debris for years

597
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,480
after we loaded the debris back on the

598
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:54,480
car i went to bed

599
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,200
my mother went to her room and i did not

600
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,600
see my dad for maybe the next day i'm

601
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,279
not sure exactly how long he was going

602
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,440
but when he came back in he was very

603
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,600
serious about never describing this

604
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:08,240
again treat this as a non-event didn't

605
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,590
happen

606
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,240
[Music]

607
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,400
nearly 40 years would pass before father

608
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:14,400
and son would discuss their memories of

609
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,679
roswell

610
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,760
shortly before he died you know i called

611
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,919
we stood then the subject came up and i

612
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,240
said what do you recall those eye beams

613
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:24,880
looking like and he redescribed again

614
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:27,279
what the the figures were i i said what

615
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,159
color were they and i was little purple

616
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,200
kind of a shiny violet hue so that uh

617
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,760
that coincides with my memory too i said

618
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:37,600
is there any possibility of any of this

619
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,000
still being out there maybe uh

620
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,039
under some rocks or something he says no

621
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:45,120
his exact words were they went out there

622
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,440
and they vacuumed the place up

623
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,440
as one of the few remaining witnesses

624
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,360
willing to come forward and discuss the

625
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,840
event marcel believes he knows some of

626
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:55,919
the truth about roswell

627
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:58,400
he's also aware of the implications

628
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,320
there's something i'll never forget

629
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,120
because it opened my eyes as to

630
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,440
what's actually out there our solar

631
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,600
system is just a grain of sand tucked

632
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,520
away in an out of the way place in a

633
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:11,679
very ordinary galaxy

634
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:14,720
oh my god even with what ufo researchers

635
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,039
consider an overwhelming abundance of

636
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,440
evidence the weather balloon story

637
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,720
persists

638
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,200
there's certainly no evidence that balsa

639
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,520
wood and and

640
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,360
aluminum foil

641
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:29,200
are the sorts of things that spacecraft

642
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,360
would be made of raimi

643
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,360
it is well documented that wreckage was

644
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,679
sent to right field which at the time

645
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:37,679
was the army's center for top secret

646
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,240
technological research this is where

647
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,400
captured german and soviet military

648
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,120
hardware was dismantled and studied many

649
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,960
believe that this was where the initial

650
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,279
work was begun to attempt to reverse

651
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,840
engineer the recovered alien craft there

652
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,919
is also evidence that within hours of

653
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,320
the initial reports a satchel of the

654
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,320
material was flown to washington for a

655
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:00,880
briefing with president truman

656
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,679
why was the material handled under such

657
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:05,840
high security

658
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,640
and why would a routine recovery require

659
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,720
the immediate attention of so many

660
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:13,039
high-ranking officials including the

661
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:14,970
president of the united states

662
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:20,390
a new generation has grown up since the

663
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,750
some of the people you would most expect

664
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:27,600
to be excited about roswell are the

665
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:33,990
curiously many of the town's residents

666
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,720
say they've never even heard of the 1947

667
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,520
incident or that it's of no concern to

668
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,559
them

669
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:42,240
what and i tell my husband what is this

670
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,000
and he's from texas and he said well

671
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,799
i've already heard about this years back

672
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:48,480
and i just never had heard about it till

673
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:52,320
like i tell you two years ago

674
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,390
i can't even get on the phone where they

675
00:27:01,669 --> 00:27:00,080
when they say let me have your address

676
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:01,679
and i say russell new mexico and they

677
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:04,000
just tell me oh that's where the ufo

678
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,530
landed you know just kind of oh i guess

679
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,679
[Music]

680
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:11,600
i've heard of it but i don't believe in

681
00:27:16,570 --> 00:27:12,240
it

682
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,580
made up and stuff

683
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,919
[Music]

684
00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,679
well brazil is my hometown i've lived

685
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,159
here all my life like i tell you and

686
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:24,640
this is great but i'm just not into it

687
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,159
so who are the ones asking the questions

688
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,480
surprisingly many of the strongest

689
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,720
voices speaking out about roswell are

690
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,960
not new age eccentrics

691
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,760
but are from the scientific community

692
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,080
stanton friedman is a nuclear physicist

693
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:42,320
who has worked on advanced aerospace

694
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,720
technologies and nuclear power plant

695
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,640
systems for companies such as general

696
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:49,200
electric westinghouse general motors and

697
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:52,559
trw bruce mcabee has been a naval

698
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,360
optical physicist for over 20 years

699
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:57,440
and has been personally researching the

700
00:28:02,870 --> 00:27:59,520
subject of extraterrestrial intelligence

701
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,880
for the past 25 years lee shargle is a

702
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:05,039
materials scientist who has been a

703
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:06,720
consultant for both nasa and the

704
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,750
these scientists are convinced that what

705
00:28:17,090 --> 00:28:16,480
crashed at roswell was from another

706
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,100
world

707
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,480
[Music]

708
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,399
to fully investigate a persistent

709
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,640
mystery as intriguing as roswell

710
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:24,640
researchers endeavour to consider all

711
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,120
possible explanations in the case of

712
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,279
roswell there is still the question of

713
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:31,279
whether the crashed object could have

714
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:34,399
been something other than a ufo

715
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,919
my inclination is to believe that it was

716
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:39,200
a

717
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,600
intelligence

718
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,440
because for one of their vehicles to

719
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,240
crash implies a fallibility on the part

720
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,480
of their technology that's simply

721
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,559
inconsistent with the reliability that

722
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,799
one needs to build starships

723
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:11,520
or could it have been a classified u.s

724
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:12,640
project

725
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,760
aerospace engineer ron ray spoke with us

726
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:18,080
at edwards air force base

727
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:20,559
yeah the possibility exists back in the

728
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,440
40s that because all this new technology

729
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:25,679
came out of germany we had scientists

730
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,840
from germany that either we were testing

731
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,080
new advanced concepts to us at the time

732
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,919
these rocket engines which were brand

733
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,440
new to us

734
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:37,840
or this was some kind of

735
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,880
smoke screen if you will to hide or to

736
00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:42,720
put the russians off guard make them

737
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,559
think we were further along

738
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,880
than we really were and there's been a

739
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,200
you know a history of misinformation on

740
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:51,840
both sides trying to keep each other off

741
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,399
guard and that very likely is is one of

742
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:56,880
the possibilities if it wasn't roswell

743
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,120
we're probably doing it some other place

744
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:02,000
but researcher don schmidt doesn't agree

745
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,840
with either explanation the debris field

746
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,320
as you'll see in some of the shots

747
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:10,880
there's open pasture

748
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:13,600
it's visible for miles from the air

749
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:15,840
in fact kevin randle and i have flown

750
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,840
over the site on two separate occasions

751
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,080
you can literally see for almost 50

752
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:21,200
miles

753
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,360
now i can assure you that if there was

754
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,039
anything that had gone off course

755
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,120
anything that had been lost

756
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:29,440
that was a top secret nature

757
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,350
all the explanations that have been

758
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,039
offered for the roswell crash whether

759
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:38,320
it's a balloon

760
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,039
of any kind a v2 rocket airplane

761
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,960
accident experimental aircraft all of

762
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,880
those explanations failed when you

763
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,640
started talking to the witnesses and

764
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,240
getting the eyewitness testimony in the

765
00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:51,600
descriptions of what they had seen

766
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,120
with all that we know about the

767
00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:55,600
circumstances of the roswell case it is

768
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,600
puzzling as to why more people who were

769
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,640
here 50 years ago don't come forward now

770
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:02,559
and tell their stories

771
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,159
could it be that those who have been

772
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,760
keeping their secrets for all these

773
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,960
years

774
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,279
are still afraid to talk

775
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,320
there was an element of fear

776
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,720
in this whole thing from the beginning

777
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:16,799
many that were involved at roswell

778
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,399
including frank joyce

779
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,559
knew the possible dangers right from the

780
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:22,799
start and he said

781
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,679
our lives will never be the same

782
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,600
that's his exact words

783
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,159
in a small desolate town during a much

784
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:34,559
simpler time when business deals were

785
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,279
sealed with a handshake a rancher's word

786
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,919
meant everything the legitimate military

787
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,760
and aerospace uh

788
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:43,279
basically say well you know you belong

789
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,559
in a rubber room or the men in the white

790
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,080
coats are going to come and get you so

791
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,000
there's always been a um

792
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:50,559
uh like i said a laughter curtain a a

793
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,519
ridicule that anybody that that purports

794
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:55,279
to believe in this or to have seen it or

795
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:56,399
filmed it or photographed it or

796
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,000
researched it is uh is purposely put up

797
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:02,880
to ridicule one witness that has asked

798
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:05,600
to remain anonymous explains why he

799
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,320
hasn't come forward until now i have

800
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:10,720
children that could possibly be hurt by

801
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:14,640
this um they're also residents

802
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,120
i also have uh

803
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,360
several legal matters that are pending

804
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,440
that uh

805
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:22,960
some

806
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,519
judge might not look favorably upon me

807
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,840
if i stand up and tell them that i did

808
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:30,399
definitely know that something crashed

809
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,519
out there

810
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,360
but that could be twisted and warped in

811
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,440
a quarter losser

812
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,840
dee knew those involved and the

813
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,919
ramifications of them having told their

814
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:42,399
stories i know of people who said they

815
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:44,240
were threatening i know several of the

816
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:45,360
ranchers

817
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:46,640
in that area

818
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:48,559
were told to stay away from that area

819
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,240
and if they had picked up any of the

820
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:52,240
metal or any other

821
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,519
uh

822
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,399
wreckage as souvenirs to return it or

823
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,159
they'd be prosecuted

824
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,080
if a flying saucer was recovered at

825
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,399
roswell as many believe then what

826
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:04,640
happened to it and its crew

827
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,919
metallurgist and author lee shargl spent

828
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,000
years working with advanced flight

829
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,159
systems and technologies including

830
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,640
nasa's hubble telescope and the navy's

831
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:17,039
super our back missile system

832
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,120
now chargal is revealing what he

833
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,840
believes to be a piece of roswell crash

834
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:23,120
debris

835
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:25,360
it's a piece of a vehicle that didn't

836
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,440
originate on this planet

837
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,600
charles says that the material was given

838
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:31,760
to him by a woman whose father was a

839
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,399
pilot stationed at roswell army airfield

840
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,080
at the time of the crash

841
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,559
after authenticating her background

842
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:40,559
chargal subjected the object to both

843
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,360
metallurgic and chemical analysis we

844
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:46,159
found out that it is made of homogeneous

845
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:50,960
100 pure aluminum you can't get 100

846
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,159
homogeneous pure aluminum the only way

847
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:57,120
we believe that that could be made is in

848
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,399
a environment under extreme pressure and

849
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,279
no gravity in the vacuum of space

850
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,440
chargo is adamant that the technology

851
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:08,399
did not exist in 1947 using

852
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,960
computer-aided designs he created a

853
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,200
three-dimensional model that leads him

854
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:15,280
to suspect that the object was part of

855
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:19,760
the spacecraft's engine i think it is a

856
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,399
type of containment valve

857
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:23,919
or

858
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:27,119
flow valve used in a superconducting

859
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,560
magnetic drive

860
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,079
it's coated

861
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:32,839
with a thin layer of

862
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,320
glass that and it has what i believe to

863
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,960
be extremely a curious dielectric

864
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:40,159
properties

865
00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,240
and it probably was a valve that

866
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,480
operated with a series of valves to

867
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:47,119
allow the flow of a material like liquid

868
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,399
nitrogen or some

869
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:51,440
very cold liquid that was used to

870
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,000
surround the magnetic core

871
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:55,599
if that explains what happened to the

872
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:58,960
wreckage what about the ship's occupants

873
00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,280
over the past few years various film

874
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,599
clips and photographs have surfaced that

875
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:05,760
were purported to be actual images of

876
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,910
investigators have scrutinized all

877
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,520
footage and photos that have come to

878
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,280
light and so far

879
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:17,599
no pictures have been verified as being

880
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:18,560
genuine

881
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,680
[Music]

882
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,760
the incident at roswell can be explained

883
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,839
by one of three possibilities

884
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:30,400
it was either a downed weather balloon

885
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:33,680
a crashed alien spaceship or some top

886
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,800
secret military project gone wrong

887
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,560
and every investigator who has

888
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,079
researched the case says it was

889
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,839
definitely not a top secret military

890
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:45,680
project so we're left with two choices

891
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,720
balloon or alien craft

892
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,320
what do you think

893
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:52,800
if it was a balloon why do eyewitnesses

894
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,720
describe the wreckage as something not

895
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,040
manufactured on earth

896
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:58,560
and why did the military treat the

897
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,040
material as something far more important

898
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,000
than balloon debris

899
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,240
the idea that an extraterrestrial craft

900
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,920
may have crashed here in roswell

901
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,920
challenges some of our most fundamental

902
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,359
beliefs

903
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,000
are we alone in the universe or have we

904
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:16,640
indeed been visited by beings from other

905
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,470
in 1965 radar detected something in the

906
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,560
skies over edwards air force base in

907
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,640
california recently some of the

908
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:32,880
recordings of the conversations during

909
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,510
hello this is captain claude john layman

910
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,200
okay captain clark

911
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:46,000
reed yeah uh we have some confirmed

912
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:47,119
reports

913
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:49,760
of uh some unidentified buying objects

914
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:54,079
your area okay approximately six

915
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,349
they're just south of victorville

916
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,359
they're moving slowly

917
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,520
and climbing slowly

918
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:05,200
they're red

919
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:08,800
white and green flashing lights and they

920
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:12,160
happened to from one radar

921
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,680
uh

922
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,440
they can't establish what these things

923
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,440
are these excerpts from the audio

924
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:19,680
documentary edwards air force base

925
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:22,160
encounter compiled by producer sam

926
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:25,920
sherman are proof to many that ufos do

927
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,320
exist three more of them

928
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,160
well south and them

929
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:32,000
okay well i still see a red light

930
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:33,280
occasionally out of one of them where

931
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:35,280
are they big bright ones

932
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:37,040
they beneath them and just a little bit

933
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:39,040
south and there's three of them almost

934
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:40,720
in a straight line

935
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,079
i don't like to be the only one saying

936
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,720
these type of things

937
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:47,040
i still have a contact out there

938
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:48,839
oh you do visual

939
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,240
yeah these objects

940
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,160
look the same as the rest of them no

941
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,160
this one uh

942
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:58,560
just appears to be a flash not

943
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:00,400
nothing red or green

944
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,599
oh i see

945
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:04,079
could be something else

946
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,640
all right i have alpha inside now yeah

947
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:08,480
he said he's got a contact 12 o'clock

948
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,470
some believe that the earliest reports

949
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:17,040
of ufo sightings date back hundreds if

950
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:29,430
[Music]

951
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,270
certainly in this century the notion of

952
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,359
distant space travel and contact with

953
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,599
exotic beings from other worlds has been

954
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,839
a captivating and entertaining subject

955
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,079
in popular culture the pervasive

956
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,560
paranoia of the 50s was reflected in

957
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,880
frightening depictions of invasions from

958
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,480
outer space

959
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,040
flying saucers have invaded our planet

960
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,000
washington london paris moscow are key

961
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:54,160
targets the whole world is under it

962
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:56,560
motion pictures and tv shows portrayed

963
00:39:02,790 --> 00:38:58,720
flying saucers and their pilots as

964
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,800
sinister enemies to mankind

965
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,800
while images such as these appear

966
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,800
laughable now at the time they

967
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:09,200
represented disturbing possibilities of

968
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,320
disaster resulting from alien contact

969
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,079
with some notable exceptions

970
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:16,640
contemporary attitudes thankfully tend

971
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:18,800
to be more hopeful

972
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,079
recently part of nevada highway 375 was

973
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:24,960
renamed the extraterrestrial highway

974
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,560
welcoming any and all alien visitors

975
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:31,280
most people when they look to the sky

976
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,000
see

977
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:34,720
friend or foe

978
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:38,640
not me i see intergalactic tourists

979
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,119
many point to a variety of mysterious

980
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,760
phenomena as evidence of the presence of

981
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,280
extraterrestrials

982
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,240
crop circles in the uk are often claimed

983
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:50,880
to have been caused by alien beings

984
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,280
likewise they have been blamed for many

985
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,359
unexplained instances of animal

986
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,079
mutilation across the united states and

987
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,920
while there has been little physical

988
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,079
evidence to prove the claims thousands

989
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:03,920
of individuals have reported being

990
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,040
abducted by extraterrestrial craft

991
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:09,920
ufo debunker philip

992
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:12,640
feels that none of these claims offers

993
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:14,960
substantial proof of extraterrestrial

994
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,829
in 30 years more than nearly 31 years of

995
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,599
investigating

996
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:25,920
mysterious ufo cases

997
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,040
i have yet to find one

998
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,280
not a single one that cannot be

999
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:32,640
explained in

1000
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,400
down to earth or prosaic terms scientist

1001
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,599
john pike tends to agree

1002
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,359
i think it's clear that tens of

1003
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,520
thousands of people every year see

1004
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,359
objects flying in the sky that they

1005
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,200
can't explain

1006
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,359
i think that it's equally clear that

1007
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,520
upon investigation most of those

1008
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,680
sightings have relatively prosaic

1009
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,319
explanations but a small percentage of

1010
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,119
them remain very difficult to explain

1011
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,200
when you do the math it's fairly clear

1012
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,440
that life civilized life should be very

1013
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:05,839
abundant in the galaxy space flight

1014
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,240
isn't that difficult so the question is

1015
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,160
why aren't those advanced civilizations

1016
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,480
already here because we certainly don't

1017
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:14,560
seem to see them here

1018
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:17,040
could it be that in this amazing

1019
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:18,160
universe

1020
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,359
[Music]

1021
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:21,760
100 billion galaxies each with hundreds

1022
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,440
of billions of stars

1023
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,800
this is the only star that has an

1024
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,880
inhabited planet i mean it seems like

1025
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,359
the height of human arrogance

1026
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:31,760
but that's not proof the only way you

1027
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,240
really find out is by looking for over

1028
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,359
30 years scientists involved with seti

1029
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:39,040
have been scanning the heavens for

1030
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:42,240
signals from other worlds

1031
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:43,839
everything we've learned in our modern

1032
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,560
studies of astronomy biology

1033
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:49,200
of evolution of life have shown that the

1034
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:51,280
steps which led to our being here

1035
00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:53,200
including our high technology using

1036
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,560
civilization

1037
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:56,480
are completely normal steps in the

1038
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,359
evolution of the star and its planets

1039
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,520
and therefore the steps which led to our

1040
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,560
existence

1041
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,960
should have occurred in many many places

1042
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,480
and therefore there should be many

1043
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,599
technology-using civilizations in space

1044
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:11,920
regrettably the us congress canceled

1045
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:14,480
funding for seti but the search still

1046
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,680
goes on

1047
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,160
lee shargal believes a different nasa

1048
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,880
project may be the means of contact

1049
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,599
we sent voyager out in space

1050
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:25,440
and carl sagan and other scientists

1051
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,000
nobel laureates fought vehemently to put

1052
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,160
that gold plate that record album on the

1053
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:32,480
side of that probe with the images and

1054
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,319
sounds of what the essence of human

1055
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:37,680
culture is why did they do that

1056
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,400
because they hoped that someday some

1057
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,720
extraterrestrial race would find that

1058
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:44,240
probe

1059
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,319
retrieve that record from the side of it

1060
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,200
see the diagram learn how to play it and

1061
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:51,920
understand who and what we are and see

1062
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,400
the map of its trajectory and follow it

1063
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:56,240
back to this world

1064
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:57,920
and they thought well maybe it'll be ten

1065
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,079
thousand thirty thousand maybe a million

1066
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,680
years from now

1067
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,480
but someday they would discover that

1068
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,079
why did they do that because they

1069
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,240
believed in the possibility that

1070
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,800
extraterrestrial life might be out there

1071
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
now think about that

1072
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,240
in reverse

1073
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,040
what if they did it to us

1074
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,720
would we say oh it's ludicrous it could

1075
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:20,400
never happen how could we make a

1076
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:21,920
statement like that when we ourselves

1077
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:24,560
did the very same thing suppose they're

1078
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:27,119
sending probes out into space and one of

1079
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,920
them may have inadvertently come here

1080
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,240
and maybe one of those probes had within

1081
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,400
it the life forms of that other world

1082
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,359
those who studied the phenomenon of ufos

1083
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,359
are convinced that the government knows

1084
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:41,599
a lot more about alien life than they

1085
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,319
even come close to admitting for years

1086
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,240
both civilian and military pilots have

1087
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:48,560
reported observing mysterious objects

1088
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,040
while in flight astronauts gordon cooper

1089
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,040
and frank bormann have publicly

1090
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,000
announced their encounters and yet no

1091
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:58,240
official announcement

1092
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,599
and and it's interesting because the

1093
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,760
denial has actually gone from

1094
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,000
uh the original condon report in the

1095
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,720
1950s that said ufos aren't dangerous

1096
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,040
but people who see them are so it's gone

1097
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,960
from everybody that sees them as crazy

1098
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,960
to okay we'll investigate the phenomenon

1099
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,960
to now there's nothing to it to now it

1100
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:17,359
being well we can't confirm or deny so

1101
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,560
in other words the military is now

1102
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:20,160
saying we can't say that there isn't

1103
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,359
something but we can't say there is

1104
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,800
something either so you'll notice that

1105
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,880
even the level of deniability has

1106
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,480
actually swung in an arc that's more

1107
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:28,960
towards favoring the truth

1108
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,240
i'm here to discuss the so-called flying

1109
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,079
sorceress

1110
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,880
air force interest in this problem

1111
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,720
has been due to our feeling of an

1112
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,560
obligation to

1113
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,480
identify

1114
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,640
and analyze to the best of our ability

1115
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,480
anything in the air

1116
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:49,280
that may have the possibility of threat

1117
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:52,240
or minutes to the united states

1118
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,720
in pursuit of this obligation since 1947

1119
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,880
we have received and analyzed between

1120
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,520
one in 2000 reports

1121
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,760
that have come to us from all kinds of

1122
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,440
sources

1123
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,680
of this great massive reports we have

1124
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,880
been able

1125
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,119
adequately to explain

1126
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,359
the great bulk of them however there

1127
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,599
have been a certain percentage of this

1128
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,000
volume of reports

1129
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,000
that have been made by credible

1130
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:21,520
observers

1131
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,280
of relatively incredible things

1132
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,920
it is this group of observations that we

1133
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,960
now are attempting to resolve

1134
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,119
responding to ever increasing awareness

1135
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,440
of the situation the air force launched

1136
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,920
what they called project blue book

1137
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:40,079
implemented they said to investigate the

1138
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:41,370
ufo phenomenon

1139
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:42,720
[Music]

1140
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:45,599
project blue book was the third name for

1141
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,400
the air force's publicly known

1142
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,480
ufo investigation

1143
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:53,359
uh by previous names it goes back to

1144
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:55,599
january 1948

1145
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,440
and continued until december 1969 almost

1146
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,440
22 years

1147
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,359
it was headquartered at wright-patterson

1148
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,839
air force base in dayton ohio

1149
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,599
it accepted

1150
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,240
ufo reports from

1151
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:12,160
government people

1152
00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,760
from the general public

1153
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,920
it collected

1154
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,400
over 12 000 reports

1155
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:20,880
and it was charged obviously with

1156
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,640
explaining every single report it got

1157
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:27,359
the techniques it used were sometimes so

1158
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,520
unscientific is to make you

1159
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,599
wonder what was going on

1160
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:34,079
but when it closed down and the files

1161
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,440
were first sent to the air force

1162
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:36,640
archives

1163
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,760
in washington

1164
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,119
there was still

1165
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,000
almost 600 reports admittedly

1166
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:45,680
unexplained

1167
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,119
there were

1168
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,960
two or three times that many

1169
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,560
reports claimed to have been explained

1170
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,480
but weren't but these are the ones the

1171
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,640
air force said they felt they had enough

1172
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,440
information but couldn't come up with an

1173
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,480
answer

1174
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:00,560
it was as if

1175
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,200
unexplained was an explanation

1176
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,040
you explained some as balloons some as

1177
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,280
airplanes and some was unexplained and

1178
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,040
that was the end of it

1179
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,440
this was definitely not a scientific

1180
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:14,160
study it was a public relations

1181
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:15,440
effort

1182
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,319
only a fool would say that there is no

1183
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,960
possibility of life elsewhere but on

1184
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:21,920
earth

1185
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,880
yes there must be life out there but

1186
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:27,920
i must say that we on earth have not

1187
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,359
seen it yet

1188
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,200
none of the arguments made by a very

1189
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,880
small group of

1190
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:35,040
debunkers noisy negativists as i call

1191
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,640
them people like my college classmate

1192
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,400
carl sagan against the first two

1193
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,559
conclusions stand up under careful

1194
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:43,119
scrutiny the arguments sound great until

1195
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,160
you look at the evidence and they

1196
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:46,240
collapse of their own way the evidence

1197
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,839
is overwhelming that planet earth is

1198
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,359
being visited by intelligently

1199
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:51,440
controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft

1200
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,040
in other words some ufos underlined some

1201
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:57,200
20 times are alien spacecraft most are

1202
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,270
hello i'm patrick mcnee

1203
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,680
we're talking about roswell and the

1204
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:07,839
incident of 1947

1205
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,720
the crash outside this town ignited the

1206
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,440
passions of those who insist that what

1207
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,079
landed here was a spacecraft from

1208
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,680
another planet

1209
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:19,599
if the remnants recovered were from an

1210
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,160
alien craft they say then the reason we

1211
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,960
haven't been told about it is simple

1212
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,800
the government is keeping the details of

1213
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,160
the incident

1214
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:29,920
a secret

1215
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:33,040
i really think the story here

1216
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,280
is not something crashing here so much

1217
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,359
the story is

1218
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,000
that our government which is supposed to

1219
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,640
you know have an open society

1220
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,040
clamps the lid on something

1221
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,359
using tactics that

1222
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,000
are very questionable that are

1223
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,599
constitutionally questionable in my

1224
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:55,359
opinion

1225
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:56,319
and

1226
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,559
getting away with it within hours of the

1227
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:00,640
original press release samples of the

1228
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,440
debris were sent to fort worth there

1229
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,760
general raymie posed for pictures with

1230
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,920
jesse marcel and pieces of a weather

1231
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,400
balloon that raymie claimed came from

1232
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,400
roswell what was brought through the

1233
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,240
hang through the building and loaded on

1234
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:17,520
the airplane was not the same material

1235
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:20,240
it was not a weather ball

1236
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:23,040
they tried to kill every last word of it

1237
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:26,160
they didn't want anyone to know anything

1238
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,280
about this

1239
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:29,520
not even a thought

1240
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:31,839
while at roswell army airfield glen

1241
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,839
dennis witnessed what he believed to be

1242
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,319
the wreckage of an airplane crash he was

1243
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:38,319
immediately detained for questioning

1244
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:42,000
then threatened by military officers

1245
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:43,520
when i turned around there was another

1246
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,880
captain

1247
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:47,040
standing there and he came up and he

1248
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,680
tapped me on the shoulder and he said

1249
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,599
don't go in and start a bunch of rumors

1250
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,040
nothing's happened out here there's a

1251
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,440
crash or anything else

1252
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,520
and i and he said you'll get in some

1253
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:59,200
trouble or something similar i don't

1254
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,520
remember the exact words of it

1255
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,760
anyway he was i didn't like

1256
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,760
his attitude and i said i'm a civilian

1257
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:07,359
you can't do anything me you can go to

1258
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,480
hell

1259
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:10,240
that's when he really punched me a

1260
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,760
little bit and he said somebody be

1261
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:13,359
picking your bones out of the sand if

1262
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,800
you do that's the only time when i was

1263
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,640
ever threatened

1264
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:18,319
there is a cover-up

1265
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:21,440
after many years of investigation i'm

1266
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:24,480
certain that there is a cover-up as far

1267
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:28,240
as roswell not by the u.s air force not

1268
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:30,800
by the u.s government but by those

1269
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:33,119
people who falsely claim that the

1270
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:34,960
government is covering up

1271
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,599
they are the ones that are withholding

1272
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:40,480
key information from the public

1273
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,440
aviation historian philip class believes

1274
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:45,280
that a declassified letter to the

1275
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,160
pentagon by wright patterson lieutenant

1276
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,800
general nathan twining might be evidence

1277
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:53,200
disproving the roswell cover-up theory

1278
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,400
here is a

1279
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,720
letter written by lieutenant general

1280
00:51:02,829 --> 00:50:58,400
nathan twining

1281
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:05,829
1947 in which he says

1282
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:08,400
the phenomenon reported is something

1283
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,480
real and not visionary or fictitious

1284
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,839
but what you

1285
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,599
never see

1286
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:18,079
or never hear quoted is a later

1287
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,280
paragraph

1288
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:21,200
in that same letter in which general

1289
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,720
twining says

1290
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,960
due consideration must be given to the

1291
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:26,000
following

1292
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:28,960
the lack of physical evidence in the

1293
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,240
shape of crash recovered exhibits which

1294
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,200
would undeniably prove the existence of

1295
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:36,720
these objects

1296
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,400
this letter alone that comment alone

1297
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,559
disproves roswell

1298
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:44,480
and because of that

1299
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:47,599
writers of books on roswell producers of

1300
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,880
tv shows intentionally omit any

1301
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,559
reference to that

1302
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,880
not all researchers believe this letter

1303
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,800
disproves the cover-up there's no doubt

1304
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:58,559
there was a cover-up general dubose who

1305
00:52:02,309 --> 00:51:59,760
was the chief of staff of eighth air

1306
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:02,319
force in july of 1947 told us flat out

1307
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:03,920
that the balloon explanation was a cover

1308
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:07,359
story in 1990 dubose was interviewed at

1309
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:09,200
the age of 89

1310
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:11,839
under hypnosis he recalled the events of

1311
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:15,119
july 1947.

1312
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,040
a cover story

1313
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:19,200
the balloon part of it

1314
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,800
for the remnants

1315
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,559
that were taken from

1316
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,839
this

1317
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,359
location

1318
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,319
and al clark took to washington and

1319
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:30,800
whatever happened to him then i had no

1320
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,480
knowledge

1321
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:35,040
but that's uh

1322
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,870
was in fact

1323
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,160
the story

1324
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,160
that we were told to give to the public

1325
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,720
in the news and that was it

1326
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,400
general dubose also said that he was not

1327
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,400
supposed to discuss this event with

1328
00:52:54,589 --> 00:52:51,760
general raymie the commander of eighth

1329
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:54,599
air force there was talk

1330
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,990
elements that had been found on the

1331
00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:03,599
ground

1332
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:06,180
outside of roswell new mexico

1333
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,440
[Music]

1334
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:09,200
uh the

1335
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,720
the debris or the elements

1336
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,960
were to be placed in a

1337
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,359
suitable container

1338
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:18,880
and

1339
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:23,920
carlsworld

1340
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:27,119
would pick them up and hand deliver them

1341
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,750
and that was

1342
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,760
and that nobody

1343
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:38,160
i must stress this

1344
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:41,440
that no one was to discuss this

1345
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,160
with their wife

1346
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:46,720
me with rainy with anyone

1347
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:49,520
the matter as far as we're concerned was

1348
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:50,480
closed

1349
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,510
why not if it's just a weather balloon

1350
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,000
even if it's a balloon assigned to the

1351
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,520
top secret project mobile there's

1352
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:01,200
certainly nothing in the balloon arrays

1353
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:02,559
there's some some nothing in the

1354
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:03,520
equipment

1355
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,359
that requires that high level of

1356
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:06,800
security

1357
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:08,800
why create this this this massive

1358
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,829
to fully understand how a story as

1359
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,000
extraordinary as that of a crashed

1360
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,720
flying saucer could be kept secret

1361
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:22,800
we need to return once again to early

1362
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,470
four long years of fighting had ended

1363
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,640
victoriously for the allies with the

1364
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,559
surrender of germany and japan the

1365
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:37,200
nightmare of world war ii was finally

1366
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,640
over

1367
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:40,720
to every subordinate that has been in

1368
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,559
this command of almost five million

1369
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:43,760
allies

1370
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,680
i owe debt of gratitude that can never

1371
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,520
be repaid

1372
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,000
the troops returned home and america was

1373
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:51,760
getting back on its feet and coming to

1374
00:54:55,530 --> 00:54:54,000
terms with its new position as a global

1375
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,540
superpower

1376
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:57,040
[Music]

1377
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:59,599
in the late 40s new mexico was a proving

1378
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:02,000
ground for the most awesome weapons the

1379
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,870
with the onset of the cold war

1380
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,200
fear of communist aggression became a

1381
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,440
national obsession

1382
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:15,599
it affected every facet of life in

1383
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,119
america answer that question if we have

1384
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:19,040
to stay here for a week are you a member

1385
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:20,960
of the communist party

1386
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,599
or have you ever been a member of the

1387
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:25,760
communist party i have told you that i

1388
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,359
will all right far from new mexico 1947

1389
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,920
saw the beginnings of mccarthyism and

1390
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,480
the witch hunts of the house un-american

1391
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,799
activities committees

1392
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:38,960
stand away from the stand for the bill

1393
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,270
[Applause]

1394
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:53,520
during world war ii americans have

1395
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,599
become well accustomed to the concept of

1396
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,240
national security every citizen was

1397
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,319
drilled on the importance of vigilance

1398
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,040
and silence and this situation continued

1399
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:05,760
as the cold war heated up nowhere was

1400
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,640
this more true than in new mexico

1401
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,960
across the state top secret military

1402
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:12,960
projects and operations demanded

1403
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,440
cooperation from private citizens as

1404
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:17,920
well as military personnel if people

1405
00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:20,319
were told not to talk about something

1406
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:28,470
classified defense projects in

1407
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:30,960
alamogordo at the white sands missile

1408
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:33,520
range and at los alamos made new mexico

1409
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,240
a hotbed of secrecy the entire region

1410
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:38,960
was in a constant state of alert in

1411
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,480
roswell the 509th bomb group was at the

1412
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,119
time the only military unit in the world

1413
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,520
with nuclear capabilities having been

1414
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:49,599
responsible for dropping the first and

1415
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,990
as an officer stationed in roswell

1416
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,640
walter haute knew how important secrecy

1417
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,160
was

1418
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,640
you've got a different

1419
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:06,599
frame of mind back in

1420
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,400
1947 if we were told to do something we

1421
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,799
did it we didn't ask why

1422
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,799
uh basically you

1423
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:16,799
you didn't have a need to know

1424
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,599
somebody knew why you were doing it and

1425
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:22,240
it passed down the chain of command and

1426
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:24,480
when it hit you you were the

1427
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:28,400
grunt that did the work and that was it

1428
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,799
in post-war america the attitude toward

1429
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:32,799
the government and figures of authority

1430
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,359
was still one of trust this was still an

1431
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,079
era of innocence and acceptance compared

1432
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,799
to the decades that would follow

1433
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:43,440
former roswell radio personality frank

1434
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,799
joyce articulates the difference

1435
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,319
something else you got to remember that

1436
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:50,640
was a different era than now you didn't

1437
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,599
have the

1438
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,559
complex society that we have now you did

1439
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:56,400
not have

1440
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:58,960
tvs cameraman as we have

1441
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,280
scheduled here a news reporter like

1442
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,920
yourself with a backing of all sorts of

1443
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,079
people and all the best equipment in the

1444
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,559
world to report everything that happened

1445
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:11,040
so when a when a statement came out on

1446
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,799
the newswire that simply said it's a

1447
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,400
weather balloon people were inclined to

1448
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:17,280
believe it on contra affair was 40 years

1449
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,240
away

1450
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:20,559
people still tended to believe in their

1451
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,920
leaders and what they said

1452
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,839
if an official statement came out saying

1453
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,599
a flying saucer was really a weather

1454
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,520
balloon it was much more likely that

1455
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:31,680
people would accept the change in story

1456
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:34,240
without further thought

1457
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:36,160
those who are convinced there's more to

1458
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:38,480
roswell than just a weather balloon

1459
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,480
are determined to get answers

1460
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:42,720
but getting through to the fortress of

1461
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,510
while ufo researchers claim the federal

1462
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:51,599
government keeps the truth about roswell

1463
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:54,079
locked tightly away it is the goal of

1464
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,640
these researchers to extract official

1465
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:57,920
information

1466
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,559
using procedures mandated by the freedom

1467
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:02,880
of information act investigators have

1468
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,960
been chipping away at what they see as a

1469
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,200
fortress guarding the secrets of

1470
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,000
hundreds of ufo encounters stanton

1471
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:12,400
friedman the researcher who first spoke

1472
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,920
to jesse marcel in 1978 says getting

1473
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:18,160
answers from the government is not so

1474
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:19,599
simple

1475
00:59:23,589 --> 00:59:21,440
many people think that it's easy with

1476
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,599
freedom of information this magic key

1477
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:25,040
that unlocks all the doors all you've

1478
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:27,280
got to ask you anything you want nothing

1479
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,200
could be farther from the truth you have

1480
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:31,280
the right to ask they don't have to

1481
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:32,799
reveal because there's a page full of

1482
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:34,000
exclusions

1483
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:35,920
and the major exclusion is national

1484
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,240
security anyway we apply under freedom

1485
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,240
of information the nsa we want these 18

1486
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:41,680
ufo documents all we have is a list

1487
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,000
basically dates no gentlemen we can't

1488
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,400
release anything national security here

1489
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,920
we're going around in circles so we try

1490
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:49,680
a legal ploy we ask that they submit the

1491
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:51,280
documents to the judge

1492
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,640
so he can determine whether they are

1493
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:54,240
payments which he gets to see in

1494
01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:57,599
chambers he was so impressed with that

1495
01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,799
that he ruled in their favor he said

1496
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,680
that

1497
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,079
the public interest in disclosure which

1498
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,720
he recognized was far outweighed by the

1499
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,960
potential danger to the security of the

1500
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:10,319
united states

1501
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:11,680
should this information be released

1502
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,400
national security and flying saucers we

1503
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,240
filed one of these wonderful magical

1504
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,480
freedom of information act requests for

1505
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,520
the affidavit and we got it we expected

1506
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,440
a little censorship and

1507
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,040
you know it's not too surprising there's

1508
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:26,559
some blacked out stuff

1509
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,630
that it's truly laughable you're telling

1510
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:34,640
me there's no cover-up

1511
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:37,920
75 blacked out

1512
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,400
there is no question whatsoever that

1513
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:42,559
agencies the united states government

1514
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:46,480
are withholding ufo information

1515
01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,839
now if yes do i know what it is they're

1516
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,599
withholding well when i see it i'll know

1517
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:51,119
but certainly they're withholding the

1518
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,960
story about the roswell

1519
01:00:56,470 --> 01:00:54,079
crash

1520
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,480
former command sergeant major robert

1521
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:58,559
dean was assigned to supreme

1522
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:00,880
headquarters allied powers in europe

1523
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:02,480
where he was exposed to highly

1524
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:05,200
classified operations and information on

1525
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:06,720
a daily basis

1526
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:09,200
since leaving the military he has formed

1527
01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:12,160
stargate international whose goal is to

1528
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,280
educate the public on the reality of

1529
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:16,799
extraterrestrial presence

1530
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:19,680
it's easy to lie to the american people

1531
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,960
lying in government has almost become

1532
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:24,400
institutionalized

1533
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:26,240
in american government

1534
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,640
i'll give you a small example

1535
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:30,720
about a year and a half ago

1536
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:33,760
nasa at houston was circulating an

1537
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:36,480
in-house document to the personnel at

1538
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,440
houston

1539
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:39,280
on how to avoid

1540
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:41,680
the freedom of information act

1541
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,200
they were telling their personnel

1542
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,200
literally how to lie

1543
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:47,839
to the public and to the media

1544
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,559
so

1545
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:50,799
secrets can be kept the lid has been

1546
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:53,920
kept on this one for well over 50 years

1547
01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:55,520
and it's quite easy to lie to the

1548
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:57,119
american public because they don't do

1549
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:58,559
their homework and they don't pay

1550
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,119
attention other organizations such as

1551
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:03,520
the mutual ufo network and citizens

1552
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:06,079
against ufo secrecy were formed with

1553
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,440
similar goals but washington d.c based

1554
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,839
operation right to know is taking a

1555
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,520
different approach

1556
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:15,599
elaine douglas believes that highly

1557
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:18,079
visible demonstrations might broaden

1558
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:19,680
public awareness

1559
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:24,720
operation right to know started in 1992.

1560
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,880
since that time we've had 14

1561
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,559
demonstrations

1562
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:30,559
and the reason we do these

1563
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:32,160
demonstrations

1564
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:35,839
is simply to get people out there in

1565
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:38,559
public on the street saying the truth

1566
01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:41,520
we're striving to have what we call uh

1567
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,480
open hearings we want them on c-span

1568
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,720
we want the doors to be open

1569
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:49,359
and we have asked congress individually

1570
01:02:54,069 --> 01:02:51,680
in many cases to grant us

1571
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:54,079
congressional immunity for violating our

1572
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:56,960
security oaths so those of us in the old

1573
01:03:01,670 --> 01:02:59,520
boy network can tell the congress

1574
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:01,680
congress can tell the congressional

1575
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:04,480
representatives can tell the people

1576
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:07,039
what we've seen and what we've learned

1577
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:08,799
even though public awareness is greater

1578
01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:11,280
than it was even a decade ago the

1579
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:13,839
support of elected officials is slow in

1580
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:15,520
coming

1581
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:18,240
but i do believe we're making progress

1582
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:19,680
thanks to the work of people like

1583
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,240
congressman schiff from new mexico

1584
01:03:27,270 --> 01:03:24,640
questions are being asked

1585
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:27,280
we've got a number of senators who have

1586
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,440
privately stated that they're with us in

1587
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:31,039
this issue

1588
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,119
so we are making some headway i i'm a

1589
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:35,440
little impatient because

1590
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:37,200
i'm getting older by the day and i'm not

1591
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:38,720
going to be around forever and i'd like

1592
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,520
to see it happen now

1593
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:43,680
while assertions of government cover-up

1594
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,559
are handily dismissed by skeptics as

1595
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:48,480
nothing more than the rantings of

1596
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:50,640
paranoid sensationalists

1597
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:52,799
it's important to consider the track

1598
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:56,079
record of the past few decades

1599
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,880
since the earliest days of this nation

1600
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,559
the american system of government has

1601
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,079
been designed to serve and be

1602
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,119
responsible to the american citizen

1603
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,839
yet for the last 30 or 40 years there

1604
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:10,400
has been a steady erosion of trust in

1605
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:13,039
the country's leaders the reason a

1606
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:15,200
repeated surfacing of incidents of

1607
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:17,680
dishonesty by government officials

1608
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:19,920
beginning in the late 40s and 50s the

1609
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,839
federal government sponsored a massive

1610
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:24,000
program to test and develop atomic

1611
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,359
weapons cold war fear created an urgent

1612
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,280
need to perfect weapons of mass

1613
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,839
destruction as part of the strategy of

1614
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,200
deterrence

1615
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:36,000
it was not until 1994 however that it

1616
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,480
was learned that many radiation test

1617
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:40,480
subjects were not even aware of their

1618
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,079
exposure to harmful levels of radiation

1619
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:46,160
the revelations resulted in public

1620
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:53,510
but i must say that slipping radium

1621
01:04:59,029 --> 01:04:56,480
substances in however small doses

1622
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:59,039
to unsuspecting uninformed and

1623
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:00,880
unconsenting citizens

1624
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:03,200
smacks of an evil that cannot be

1625
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,079
dismissed it is no accident that

1626
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:08,880
prisoners the soldiers and the elderly

1627
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:11,440
were used for testing effects of

1628
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:12,799
radiation

1629
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:15,760
these members of society were not fully

1630
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:19,520
enfranchised and lack control over their

1631
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:22,480
lives in the 1960s and early 70s the war

1632
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:25,440
in vietnam spilled over into laos and

1633
01:05:29,910 --> 01:05:27,920
cambodia bombing campaigns were carried

1634
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:29,920
out by the military while the public and

1635
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:31,839
press were kept in the dark

1636
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,160
in the 80s arms were sold to support the

1637
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:36,799
contra anti-communists in nicaragua in

1638
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:40,240
violation of u.s law and without public

1639
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:43,200
knowledge god bless america

1640
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,119
i happen to believe that this nation

1641
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,520
needs to be able to conduct deniable

1642
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,520
covert operations

1643
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,200
i believe that this

1644
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:53,440
president like all presidents

1645
01:05:58,390 --> 01:05:56,160
needs to have a an ability to dissociate

1646
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,400
himself from those activities

1647
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,319
and that the u.s role should remain

1648
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,720
hidden or deniable and not be revealed

1649
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,319
and more recently it was learnt that

1650
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:06,559
beginning in the 40s black soldiers were

1651
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:08,960
used as human guinea pigs to study the

1652
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:10,960
effects of syphilis

1653
01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:12,880
most shocking is the revelation that the

1654
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:14,799
test subjects were never told and were

1655
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:17,039
not treated even when treatments for the

1656
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:20,079
disease existed it's no wonder many

1657
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:22,000
doubt the honesty of government

1658
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:24,319
officials how paranoid is the belief

1659
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:26,319
that the government would withhold

1660
01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:29,599
knowledge of extraterrestrials

1661
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:31,760
well after numerous private and official

1662
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:34,240
probes what does the government say

1663
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:36,000
roswell was

1664
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,960
and does anyone believe the answer

1665
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:40,319
the recent

1666
01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:42,799
study by the air force which culminated

1667
01:06:45,589 --> 01:06:44,799
in their official report

1668
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:45,599
in

1669
01:06:52,230 --> 01:06:49,119
july of 1994.

1670
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:52,240
the background of that report included

1671
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:55,359
a very large investigation into the

1672
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:58,799
possibility of other objects having

1673
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:01,760
crashed or fallen at that particular

1674
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:04,799
time on the ranch at roswell it was

1675
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:07,440
examined from every conceivable point of

1676
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:11,039
view and the answer is positively no

1677
01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:12,799
there was no other

1678
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,559
possible

1679
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:16,799
source of that debris

1680
01:07:20,990 --> 01:07:19,119
retired air force colonel richard weaver

1681
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,000
was assigned to head up the government's

1682
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:24,160
1994 investigation into the roswell

1683
01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:26,079
incident

1684
01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:28,480
the impetus for the pentagon

1685
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,559
starting its inquiry into what happened

1686
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,240
was to be responsive to a general

1687
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,760
accounting office request that was

1688
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:35,839
generated by congressman stephen schiff

1689
01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:38,000
of new mexico

1690
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:40,079
congressman schiff had requested a gao

1691
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,720
to conduct an audit of

1692
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:44,319
what was

1693
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,839
veiledly

1694
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,599
named balloon crashes and airplane

1695
01:07:50,789 --> 01:07:48,960
crashes but it was obviously what they

1696
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,799
were looking for was something to do

1697
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,039
with roswell the air force responds to

1698
01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,280
all gao requests they answer them all

1699
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,039
they provide all the information

1700
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,200
and this was just another gao request

1701
01:08:04,309 --> 01:08:01,520
that we responded to about september of

1702
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,319
1993 maybe maybe october

1703
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:05,760
i talked with some

1704
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:07,359
officials at the general accounting

1705
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,559
office

1706
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:10,000
who i was seeing on some other matters

1707
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:11,760
and i told them about this and asked

1708
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:14,079
them if they would undertake an inquiry

1709
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:16,960
for me and what i asked them for

1710
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:19,920
was not to recreate the roswell incident

1711
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,839
from scratch by trying to interview

1712
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:23,440
everybody after almost 50 years i don't

1713
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:25,279
even think that's probably possible to

1714
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:26,400
do anymore

1715
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:29,199
i asked them to help me find

1716
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:31,520
the government documents that would have

1717
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,319
existed in 1947

1718
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,880
and if they don't exist anymore what

1719
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:38,400
happened to them i do have to add that

1720
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,319
there has been at least one change

1721
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:42,319
since i began all this and that is that

1722
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:43,120
the

1723
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,199
instruction to all agencies to fully

1724
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:51,199
cooperate with the general accounting

1725
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,880
office and i was glad to see that change

1726
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:55,040
of position on the part of the air force

1727
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,319
because they quite clearly were not

1728
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,319
fully cooperating with me when i first

1729
01:09:03,669 --> 01:09:00,799
contacted them and what answers did the

1730
01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:03,679
air force investigation yield

1731
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,359
according to weaver and his team of

1732
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,199
researchers and analysts there was

1733
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,279
nothing other than a weather balloon

1734
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:11,120
that could have crashed at the foster

1735
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,520
ranch we considered a number of options

1736
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,359
going into it and those are things that

1737
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,440
we explored for example could this have

1738
01:09:21,110 --> 01:09:19,600
been an airplane crash whether a regular

1739
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:21,120
airplane crash or an experimental

1740
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,960
airplane crash of some type

1741
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:24,880
the answer was no could this be a

1742
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,640
nuclear accident since

1743
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,400
at that time the 509th bomb group at

1744
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:30,080
roswell was the only people in the world

1745
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,520
that had nuclear weapons and the answer

1746
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:32,719
again was no

1747
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:35,199
could this been a missile crash

1748
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,520
from white sands an errant missile that

1749
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:39,040
had somehow

1750
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:40,400
got off course

1751
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,799
and the answer again we found was no

1752
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,319
and we considered could this been an

1753
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:46,560
extraterrestrial event

1754
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,799
of some proportions and again the answer

1755
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,640
we found was no

1756
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:52,239
while many believe that the government

1757
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,920
is still covering up the true story

1758
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,000
behind roswell colonel weaver believes

1759
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,159
that his investigation was completely

1760
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:00,480
unbiased

1761
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:02,800
we went into the whole study

1762
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:04,960
with a real open mind and i say we there

1763
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,719
were scores of people involved this just

1764
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,080
wasn't myself

1765
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,159
or captain mcandrew whose name is also

1766
01:10:13,189 --> 01:10:12,000
usually linked with this but scores of

1767
01:10:15,189 --> 01:10:13,199
people

1768
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,199
who are involved in the research

1769
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:16,880
and we went into it with an open mind

1770
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,199
and with no presuppositions of what we

1771
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,080
would find former nyu weather balloon

1772
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:23,920
engineer charles moore was the

1773
01:10:29,990 --> 01:10:26,080
technician responsible for releasing the

1774
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:30,000
balloon found by brazil

1775
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,800
the balloon that we think was recovered

1776
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,120
on the foster ranch uh was launched on

1777
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:37,440
the about three o'clock in the morning

1778
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,480
on june 4th 1947.

1779
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:42,960
we launched our next flight on about the

1780
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,280
same time of the day

1781
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,960
on june 5th

1782
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,400
that was the one that was recovered east

1783
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:49,920
of roswell

1784
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,199
when the balloons came back to ground

1785
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:53,040
after some of them burst they dragged

1786
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:55,600
across the ground and they shed

1787
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,199
pieces that they went but there was no

1788
01:11:01,910 --> 01:11:00,239
there was not a crash uh as far as we

1789
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:01,920
could determine it it was just a gentle

1790
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,480
landing that the wind then dragged the

1791
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:06,080
remaining balloons that were inflated

1792
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:07,440
across the ground

1793
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:08,239
uh

1794
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,600
this has come back to light

1795
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:15,600
i have gone to the national climatic

1796
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,760
data center in asheville north carolina

1797
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,400
and have been able to get the wind data

1798
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:22,800
for that day for the whole month of of

1799
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,800
june 1947

1800
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,239
and

1801
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:27,920
it's possible i have calculated a

1802
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,080
trajectory that would have exactly

1803
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:32,480
landed the balloon on the foster range

1804
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:35,440
colonel albert truckowski was the

1805
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,440
project officer in charge of the new

1806
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,400
jersey-based mogul balloon project he

1807
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,320
concurs with the finding of the air

1808
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:44,960
force report he suggests however that

1809
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,640
there was no need for the recovered

1810
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,719
debris to have been escorted by armed

1811
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:51,360
guards although the purpose of project

1812
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,920
mogul was top secret

1813
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:56,320
all of the equipment that was used

1814
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:58,000
individually

1815
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:01,360
and collectively was unclassified

1816
01:12:06,870 --> 01:12:03,440
only the purpose of the use of that

1817
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,880
equipment was security classified and

1818
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,920
the equipment was certainly expendable

1819
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:11,360
we

1820
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:14,080
there was no reason to use it again

1821
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,719
there was no such thing known as a mogul

1822
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:18,719
balloon because at first we used

1823
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:21,040
ordinary meteorological balloons there

1824
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,040
wasn't anything about the balloon that

1825
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:25,920
would merit special security of the

1826
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,120
balloon itself once it was launched

1827
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,360
congressman schiff along with many

1828
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:33,679
researchers believes that this very

1829
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,920
point is a hole in the weather balloon

1830
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,880
theory

1831
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,719
there seems to be no doubt

1832
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:40,560
that um

1833
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:44,159
uh these materials uh when picked up

1834
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:45,440
don't seem to have been treated like

1835
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:46,800
there were parts of a weather balloon

1836
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:48,640
these materials were flown out of new

1837
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:51,760
mexico under under armed guard by

1838
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,840
military police now weather balloons are

1839
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,000
not normally shipped under armed guard

1840
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:58,000
what appalled me is they issue a report

1841
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,199
saying that

1842
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,880
we have gone back to our records we

1843
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,239
looked at our records and we discovered

1844
01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:04,560
in 1947 we lied to you we said it was a

1845
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,320
weather balloon but we've now discovered

1846
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,159
that it was a

1847
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:09,840
weather balloon there has been much

1848
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:12,080
speculation regarding the possibility of

1849
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:14,000
the crash having been another us

1850
01:13:18,310 --> 01:13:16,880
government top secret project

1851
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:18,320
i would guess and i and i have to say

1852
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:20,080
i'm purely speculating right now i would

1853
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,679
have to guess that if it was not a

1854
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:24,320
weather balloon in 1947

1855
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,239
that perhaps there was some kind of

1856
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:28,880
classified military experiment from the

1857
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,560
white sands test range or some other

1858
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,600
military facility in southern new mexico

1859
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:35,679
that in fact crashed and was found and

1860
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:37,360
in 1947

1861
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:39,120
the government was unable to say what it

1862
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:40,800
actually was and therefore said it was a

1863
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:42,400
it was a weather bloom

1864
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,880
don berliner disagrees

1865
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:46,480
there were

1866
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:48,400
certainly top secret airplanes flying

1867
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,400
around but mainly flying around

1868
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,320
california

1869
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:54,159
there were certainly rocket tests going

1870
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:54,960
on

1871
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:01,520
went astray

1872
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:04,320
and landed in mexico

1873
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:05,520
uh

1874
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:07,920
they didn't keep it secret

1875
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:10,320
they went public with it right away

1876
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:12,800
nobody was hurt

1877
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:15,360
and so if this had been such a thing

1878
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:16,880
there would have been no real reason to

1879
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:19,760
keep it secret even at the time so the

1880
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:21,920
air force would probably be bragging

1881
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:24,880
about its super airplanes or rockets not

1882
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:32,630
[Music]

1883
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,719
one other theory about roswell has

1884
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,960
surfaced in recent years

1885
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:39,120
is it possible that both the flying

1886
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,480
saucer story and the balloon explanation

1887
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,400
could have been a smoke screen to

1888
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,120
distract the soviets from our secret

1889
01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:50,800
cold war military programs

1890
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,840
we're investigating the 1947 roswell

1891
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,520
incident was it a secret military

1892
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:00,239
experiment using weather balloons

1893
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:03,520
or was it a crashed ufo

1894
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:06,239
and if it was an alien spacecraft why

1895
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:07,679
would our government keep this

1896
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:11,360
information secret for fifty years

1897
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:15,120
is the truth something we should fear

1898
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,880
there has long been speculation about

1899
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,480
the government's motivations for

1900
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:20,880
withholding information that et's have

1901
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:23,760
indeed visited our planet

1902
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,480
ufologist sean morton has done extensive

1903
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:28,560
research work on the topic of government

1904
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:31,760
cover-ups at area 51 and groom lake

1905
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:33,840
nevada he believes that there is

1906
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:36,960
evidence that dates back years

1907
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,360
in 1962 the brookings institute

1908
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:41,600
published a white paper for nasa and in

1909
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,239
that white paper they said that within

1910
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,800
30 years that nasa would come in contact

1911
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,880
with either extraterrestrial archaeology

1912
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:50,480
allah the

1913
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,920
the face on mars or the pyramid the

1914
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:54,239
pyramids of the cydonia site or many of

1915
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:56,159
the artifacts that we found on the moon

1916
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,000
uh or we would come in contact with

1917
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,400
extraterrestrials themselves who knows

1918
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:01,920
what it would be like

1919
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:04,320
um i don't think we're

1920
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,719
prepared any of us if

1921
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:08,239
if it were to happen

1922
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,120
but

1923
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:11,760
i think it would be a transforming event

1924
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,320
in human history scientist john pike's

1925
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,640
views seem to confer with those stated

1926
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:19,199
in the brookings institute report

1927
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:20,239
there are a lot of reasons the

1928
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:21,920
government might want to cover up the

1929
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:23,440
fact that it was in contact with an

1930
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:25,840
extraterrestrial civilization it could

1931
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,000
destabilize our society and political

1932
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:30,320
system call into question religious or

1933
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:32,719
economic beliefs and it could get a lot

1934
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,640
of other governments on this planet very

1935
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:37,040
nervous about what sort of advantage we

1936
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:38,719
were getting from our contact with the

1937
01:16:41,470 --> 01:16:39,760
aliens

1938
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:41,480
the report also warns of the

1939
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:44,159
conquistador syndrome where many

1940
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,400
cultures have disintegrated after coming

1941
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:48,320
into contact with others of greater

1942
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:50,480
knowledge or power

1943
01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:51,840
some say that our government of the

1944
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,840
people by the people and for the people

1945
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:56,080
has no right to keep this information

1946
01:17:01,830 --> 01:16:59,120
out of public reach others however feel

1947
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:01,840
that a cover-up may be for our own good

1948
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,920
suppose they did find something within

1949
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,040
this

1950
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,440
that the knowledge of that would be so

1951
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,199
frightful

1952
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:12,239
that that in itself could disrupt our

1953
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,600
society

1954
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:16,000
the orson welles war of the worlds radio

1955
01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:18,159
show had that very effect

1956
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,960
i'm extremely surprised to learn that

1957
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:22,800
a story which has become familiar to

1958
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:24,560
children through the medium of comic

1959
01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:25,679
strips

1960
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,270
many succeeding

1961
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:33,360
novels and adventure stories

1962
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,800
should have

1963
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:36,719
had such an immediate and profound

1964
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:39,040
effect upon radio listeners

1965
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:42,480
what roswell's secret from 1947 could

1966
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:45,280
still be a threat to us today

1967
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:48,800
suppose there was something contained

1968
01:17:55,750 --> 01:17:51,760
within that craft

1969
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:55,760
some alien technology that could be used

1970
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,719
either for or against us but its

1971
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,480
effect could change the course of

1972
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:02,719
history

1973
01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:04,159
withholding it

1974
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,480
would prevent that change from occurring

1975
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:08,560
at that time

1976
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,120
maybe some technology that might alter

1977
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,040
our dependence on oil

1978
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:15,440
just imagine if tomorrow

1979
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,600
we didn't have a dependence on oil we

1980
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:19,679
didn't need it anymore we discovered

1981
01:18:25,350 --> 01:18:22,480
some energy source some engine some

1982
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,360
power that relinquished our dependence

1983
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,199
on oil what would that do

1984
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,960
to the economic system of the world it

1985
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:30,960
would collapse overnight or could a

1986
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:33,120
recovered technology be used for

1987
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,239
strategic gain if the government reverse

1988
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:38,239
engineer the technology from a starship

1989
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:39,679
in the same manner that the military

1990
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,159
might back engineer rival country spy

1991
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:44,560
plane for instance that government could

1992
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:47,520
stand to gain immeasurably

1993
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,600
a number of technologies were either

1994
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:51,600
partially inspired or wholly inspired

1995
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,920
from what was recovered at roswell it's

1996
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,360
amazing that when you look at the

1997
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:57,840
profiles from both the sides and from

1998
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:01,440
dead on how close to stealth technology

1999
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:04,400
and spy plane designs that the roswell

2000
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:07,520
ship resembles we firmly believe that

2001
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:10,640
she is the design rosetta stone and the

2002
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:13,120
holy grail for aerospace design

2003
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:14,640
technology

2004
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:16,239
the issue to me is government

2005
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:17,679
accountability for what the government

2006
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:20,880
did the government should make public

2007
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:23,760
all of its records on this or any other

2008
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,239
subject unless only there's a current

2009
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,560
real security need for them not to do so

2010
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,920
and then the public can make up its own

2011
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:31,040
mind

2012
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:32,480
the problem is

2013
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:34,400
that

2014
01:19:38,709 --> 01:19:36,480
we the people

2015
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:38,719
don't want to know

2016
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:39,520
uh

2017
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,320
we

2018
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:42,800
sure there's been a government cover-up

2019
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:44,880
and people say to me

2020
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,960
how could this be kept secret for 50

2021
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,000
years

2022
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,159
well the answer is not without the

2023
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:52,000
wholehearted cooperation of the american

2024
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:53,840
people

2025
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,480
so what would happen if aliens landed on

2026
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,080
earth tomorrow

2027
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,679
would we welcome them as fellow

2028
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:01,840
intelligent beings or would our own

2029
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:04,400
sense of superiority shatter and give

2030
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:07,679
way to fear and mistrust

2031
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:10,320
the first test was the announcement of a

2032
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:12,400
tiny microbe

2033
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:14,320
in a little meteorite that landed in

2034
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:16,480
allen hills in antarctica that was a

2035
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:18,560
test of our society

2036
01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:21,440
how would we react to the announcement

2037
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:24,080
of life on another planet

2038
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,000
and what do you think occurred

2039
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:27,840
society was divided right down the

2040
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:30,080
middle those on the one side said

2041
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:32,639
impossible it couldn't be life earth is

2042
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:33,920
the center of intelligence in the

2043
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:35,760
universe and those on the other side of

2044
01:20:38,950 --> 01:20:37,760
the fence who said uh we knew it all

2045
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:38,960
along

2046
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,560
i'm convinced that something has been

2047
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,320
here before and that something may be

2048
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:44,480
here now we interrupt this program to

2049
01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:46,000
give you a bulletin just received from

2050
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:48,400
one of our naval units at sea a large

2051
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:50,239
object traveling at supersonic speed is

2052
01:20:54,610 --> 01:20:52,000
headed over the north atlantic toward

2053
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:54,620
the east coast of the united states

2054
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:00,960
[Music]

2055
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:02,800
the only thing i could think of is that

2056
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:04,960
that it would just cause such uh

2057
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,679
pandemonia in the country i mean a real

2058
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:08,880
scare i mean

2059
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,480
you know out of nowhere also there's

2060
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,639
alien life

2061
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:15,120
it'd probably be freaked out

2062
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:16,719
i think people would panic instead of

2063
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,360
acting sensible about it just a minute

2064
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:21,600
ladies and gentlemen i think something

2065
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:23,330
is happening

2066
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:32,390
well here we are some 50 years since the

2067
01:21:37,229 --> 01:21:34,560
unfolding of either the greatest story

2068
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:37,239
of our existence or the biggest case of

2069
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:39,920
misinterpretation in modern history

2070
01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:41,679
what have we learned

2071
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:43,760
are there any answers to be found in

2072
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:47,120
this town or in the halls of washington

2073
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:48,800
is this really the story of the

2074
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,159
millennium

2075
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,159
on the 50th anniversary of the most

2076
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:54,880
widely speculated ufo incident in

2077
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:58,159
history what did those involved do to

2078
01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:00,400
usher in this milestone

2079
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:02,480
a full week of live events at the crash

2080
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:05,520
site of course from rock bands to laser

2081
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:08,719
light show and even a 35 ton red rock

2082
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:11,600
monument erected to beckon the curious

2083
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:14,639
alien passerby some believe that all the

2084
01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:17,199
hoopla overshadows what actually

2085
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,159
happened

2086
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,880
john bower the producer of the events

2087
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:22,719
feels that they're very necessary to

2088
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:25,440
spread the roswell word

2089
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:29,040
it just creates more focus on the fact

2090
01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,600
that something did happen in roswell

2091
01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:33,120
that is not

2092
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:34,000
uh

2093
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:36,960
been truthfully communicated to the

2094
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,880
public whether it's the american public

2095
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:40,960
or the public at large and i think that

2096
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,360
truth has yet to be revealed and as we

2097
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:45,440
celebrate roswell more and create more

2098
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,719
attention to it possibly we will

2099
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:51,360
create the mechanism for that truth to

2100
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,400
be told

2101
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:54,400
don't be totally snowed

2102
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,239
and turned off

2103
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,520
by all the uh the hype that goes on

2104
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:01,440
that's a result of the fact there really

2105
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,679
isn't a ufo industry out there now there

2106
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:05,679
are many that still carry the 50 year

2107
01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:08,400
old memory of roswell with them their

2108
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:10,880
hope is that as the years pass and new

2109
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,679
generations rediscover this most unusual

2110
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,400
occurrence maybe a few of the scores of

2111
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:18,719
compelling questions might finally be

2112
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:21,679
answered once and for all

2113
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:23,679
with witnesses aging and memories

2114
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:25,760
growing fainter by the day researchers

2115
01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:27,520
can only hope that they'll turn up

2116
01:23:32,870 --> 01:23:29,500
something new very soon

2117
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,880
[Music]

2118
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:34,560
there's absolutely no doubt in my mind

2119
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:36,080
that what crashed outside of roswell was

2120
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,239
an extraterrestrial craft that opinion

2121
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:39,840
is going to remain firm through the 50th

2122
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,480
anniversary and far beyond that

2123
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:44,480
four major conclusions

2124
01:23:47,669 --> 01:23:46,320
after 36 years of study and

2125
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,679
investigation

2126
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:49,360
one the evidence is overwhelming that

2127
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:50,880
planet earth is being visited by

2128
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,080
intelligently controlled

2129
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,400
extraterrestrial spacecraft second the

2130
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,400
subject of flying saucers represents a

2131
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,560
kind of cosmic water game

2132
01:24:01,750 --> 01:24:00,159
that means some few people within the

2133
01:24:04,189 --> 01:24:01,760
government's united states canada

2134
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:04,199
britain russia etc have known since july

2135
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,840
1947

2136
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,520
when two crashed flying saucers and

2137
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:09,199
several alien bodies were recovered here

2138
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:10,480
in new mexico

2139
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:12,400
third none of the arguments made by a

2140
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,320
very small group of

2141
01:24:18,870 --> 01:24:16,560
debunkers noisy negativists as i call

2142
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:18,880
them stand up under careful scrutiny the

2143
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:21,040
government the believers and the

2144
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:24,239
skeptics could there possibly be more to

2145
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:26,400
the roswell story

2146
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,199
the air force has recently revisited the

2147
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:31,920
topic by issuing what they call their

2148
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:35,199
final word on the roswell incident

2149
01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:37,440
in the report the air force attempts to

2150
01:24:42,070 --> 01:24:39,760
explain eyewitness accounts of alien

2151
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,080
bodies at the crash site as mixed

2152
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:44,960
memories from tests in the area years

2153
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:47,120
later the report's conclusion is that

2154
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:50,080
dummies used in impact testing from high

2155
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:52,960
altitude balloons were misidentified by

2156
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,629
is this truly the final word

2157
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:02,880
just before the release of that final

2158
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:06,880
report the skies over the southwest lit

2159
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:12,080
up once again on march the 13th 1997

2160
01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:14,560
strange objects were observed by

2161
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:16,880
multiple witnesses in the night skies

2162
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,120
over phoenix arizona

2163
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:21,280
i believe it a serious offense for

2164
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:24,960
anyone human space alien or otherwise to

2165
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:27,040
engage in mysterious activity in our

2166
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:28,880
nighttime sky responding to public

2167
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:31,360
concerns the governor of arizona

2168
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:33,280
addressed the issue and with tongue

2169
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:36,320
planted firmly in cheek announced the

2170
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:39,760
arrest of the supposed alien perpetrator

2171
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:42,239
the object defied conventional

2172
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,400
identification and the air force has

2173
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:46,960
declined to make any official statement

2174
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:49,760
on their origin

2175
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:51,360
i hope we've been able to shed some

2176
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:54,560
light on the enduring mystery of roswell

2177
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:56,960
one has to wonder will we ever know the

2178
01:26:02,310 --> 01:25:59,199
full truth about this case or do we

2179
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:02,320
already have the answers in front of us

2180
01:26:06,270 --> 01:26:03,760
what do you think

2181
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,280
i think it would be arrogant and

2182
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:08,960
borderline foolish to believe that

2183
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:10,960
there's no other

2184
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:11,920
life

2185
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,000
forms that exist out there

2186
01:26:17,669 --> 01:26:16,080
i not only believe i believe that there

2187
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,679
are many different species of ships

2188
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:19,280
there are many different species of

2189
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,960
extraterrestrials and not all of them

2190
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:22,800
are up to good i think that it's sort of

2191
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:24,560
the romantic side of me

2192
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,679
that likes to believe that there's

2193
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:27,600
something else out there it's something

2194
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,880
better or wiser or brighter or whatever

2195
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:32,800
the universe is so big

2196
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,520
and there's so many worlds that must be

2197
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:37,679
on one of them or more or something

2198
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:39,120
that's alive

2199
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:40,560
that could be it's fun to think about it

2200
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:42,719
exciting what do you think

2201
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,960
have we been visited by other life forms

2202
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:47,040
from beyond our tiny corner of the

2203
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,400
universe

2204
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:51,120
and if we have can we handle the

2205
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:53,840
knowledge of their existence